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		By: MaryEllen		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.imperfecthomemaker.com/2013/05/trying-to-understand-the-things-i-dont-when-mothers-day-hurts.html#comment-1212&quot;&gt;Kasey&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you for coming over, Kasey!  You&#039;re welcome any time!]]></description>
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<p>Thank you for coming over, Kasey!  You&#8217;re welcome any time!</p>
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		By: Kasey		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 May 2013 04:35:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Oh, this was beautiful!  You put my own scattered thoughts into words far better than I could have.  I do not understand the pain of infertility but I have some close friends who do and who have had to guard their hearts carefully as they watched me welcome each new child into my family.  May God put His tender hand to their hurt.  Bless you for reaching out in this way.  I followed you over here from where you linked up with me at Walking Redeemed last week. I am so thankful to have found your blog! Thank you!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, this was beautiful!  You put my own scattered thoughts into words far better than I could have.  I do not understand the pain of infertility but I have some close friends who do and who have had to guard their hearts carefully as they watched me welcome each new child into my family.  May God put His tender hand to their hurt.  Bless you for reaching out in this way.  I followed you over here from where you linked up with me at Walking Redeemed last week. I am so thankful to have found your blog! Thank you!!</p>
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		By: Iris		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 12 May 2013 07:44:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the great article! Mother&#039;s Day has always been hard for me, early on because my mom didn&#039;t fit the Hallmark descriptions of what a mother should be, and now because I miss her as she&#039;s gone.  The Lord gave me a revelation that changed how I view Mother&#039;s Day (and my mom).  I wrote about it this weekend if you want to check it out.  What I can say to others who are hurting- He is the best counselor, the most expertise healer I know.   Thanks for the wisdom you shared!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the great article! Mother&#8217;s Day has always been hard for me, early on because my mom didn&#8217;t fit the Hallmark descriptions of what a mother should be, and now because I miss her as she&#8217;s gone.  The Lord gave me a revelation that changed how I view Mother&#8217;s Day (and my mom).  I wrote about it this weekend if you want to check it out.  What I can say to others who are hurting- He is the best counselor, the most expertise healer I know.   Thanks for the wisdom you shared!</p>
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		By: Ellen		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ellen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 May 2013 17:52:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t know if you read this article or not, but it was good.
https://www.facebook.com/notes/jeffandheather-setzer/mothers-day-from-a-non-mothers-perspective/390155525215]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know if you read this article or not, but it was good.<br />
<a href="https://www.facebook.com/notes/jeffandheather-setzer/mothers-day-from-a-non-mothers-perspective/390155525215" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.facebook.com/notes/jeffandheather-setzer/mothers-day-from-a-non-mothers-perspective/390155525215</a></p>
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		By: MaryEllen		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 May 2013 13:31:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.imperfecthomemaker.com/2013/05/trying-to-understand-the-things-i-dont-when-mothers-day-hurts.html#comment-1172&quot;&gt;anonymous&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;In everything, make sure you are lead by the Holy Spirit.&quot;
Definitely the best advice any of us could follow!
Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts with us!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.imperfecthomemaker.com/2013/05/trying-to-understand-the-things-i-dont-when-mothers-day-hurts.html#comment-1172">anonymous</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;In everything, make sure you are lead by the Holy Spirit.&#8221;<br />
Definitely the best advice any of us could follow!<br />
Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts with us!</p>
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		By: anonymous		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 May 2013 06:08:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks for this article.  There are two things that hurt the most for me: 1. when people ask me when we are having kids.  2. When people assume we must be anti-children or chose to remain childless.  I&#039;ve been married for 7 years and had 2 miscarriages.  My answer to people asking questions has always been, &quot;Whenever God chooses to bless us.&quot;  It&#039;s gotten harder to answer that with faith as time goes by.  We wanted a large family (hoped for 6 kids at least) and never did anything to prevent pregnancy.  We&#039;ve charted, had medical testing done,  and read scores of advice on fertility.   We&#039;ve looked into adoption too but be don&#039;t have the resources for that path right now.  I think everyone is different on how they want to be treated, but I can agree with the person up above that said on mother&#039;s day she wants to blend in like a &quot;normal&quot; person.  I&#039;d rather not be signaled out with gifts or questions about my motherhood status.  I don&#039;t want any advice at all, especially on mother&#039;s day of all days.  I lost my second a few days before mother&#039;s day in 2010, so the day is especially painful without anyone bringing it up to me.  I am genuinely happy for my friends with growing families and I want to be able to wish them a happy mother&#039;s day without them turning the tables on the conversation and asking when I&#039;m going to be a mother.  I&#039;m already a mother but I didn&#039;t get to parent my children.  So when your childless friends wish you a happy mother&#039;s day or comment on how blessed you are to have your child(ren), don&#039;t use it as an opportunity to give them advice or find out their fertility status.  Simply say, &quot;thank you&quot; and agree that you are blessed.  

Also, I know that offers of prayers are well intentioned, and I do welcome prayers, but it kind of opens up the wound afresh when someone randomly tells me they are praying for my fertility issues.  I feel like I am being pitied rather than cared for.  It only serves to reminds me of my &quot;less-than&quot; status for not having living children.  Again, everyone is different on this, but I don&#039;t want to hear that you are praying for me unless: 1. I am especially close to you and 2. we have been discussing this recently and I have asked you to pray.  I encourage you to pray for your friends more than you tell them your are praying.  If you are praying then God knows you are praying; the only purposes of telling your friend is to either encourage them or to make yourself feel better.  Sadly it seems like more people say they are praying to make themselves look/feel better about the situation.  God alone knows your heart, but what is encouraging to one person may be heart-wrenchingly painful to another so take care when throwing around the &quot;I&#039;m praying for you&quot; statements.  In everything, make sure you are lead by the Holy Spirit.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this article.  There are two things that hurt the most for me: 1. when people ask me when we are having kids.  2. When people assume we must be anti-children or chose to remain childless.  I&#8217;ve been married for 7 years and had 2 miscarriages.  My answer to people asking questions has always been, &#8220;Whenever God chooses to bless us.&#8221;  It&#8217;s gotten harder to answer that with faith as time goes by.  We wanted a large family (hoped for 6 kids at least) and never did anything to prevent pregnancy.  We&#8217;ve charted, had medical testing done,  and read scores of advice on fertility.   We&#8217;ve looked into adoption too but be don&#8217;t have the resources for that path right now.  I think everyone is different on how they want to be treated, but I can agree with the person up above that said on mother&#8217;s day she wants to blend in like a &#8220;normal&#8221; person.  I&#8217;d rather not be signaled out with gifts or questions about my motherhood status.  I don&#8217;t want any advice at all, especially on mother&#8217;s day of all days.  I lost my second a few days before mother&#8217;s day in 2010, so the day is especially painful without anyone bringing it up to me.  I am genuinely happy for my friends with growing families and I want to be able to wish them a happy mother&#8217;s day without them turning the tables on the conversation and asking when I&#8217;m going to be a mother.  I&#8217;m already a mother but I didn&#8217;t get to parent my children.  So when your childless friends wish you a happy mother&#8217;s day or comment on how blessed you are to have your child(ren), don&#8217;t use it as an opportunity to give them advice or find out their fertility status.  Simply say, &#8220;thank you&#8221; and agree that you are blessed.  </p>
<p>Also, I know that offers of prayers are well intentioned, and I do welcome prayers, but it kind of opens up the wound afresh when someone randomly tells me they are praying for my fertility issues.  I feel like I am being pitied rather than cared for.  It only serves to reminds me of my &#8220;less-than&#8221; status for not having living children.  Again, everyone is different on this, but I don&#8217;t want to hear that you are praying for me unless: 1. I am especially close to you and 2. we have been discussing this recently and I have asked you to pray.  I encourage you to pray for your friends more than you tell them your are praying.  If you are praying then God knows you are praying; the only purposes of telling your friend is to either encourage them or to make yourself feel better.  Sadly it seems like more people say they are praying to make themselves look/feel better about the situation.  God alone knows your heart, but what is encouraging to one person may be heart-wrenchingly painful to another so take care when throwing around the &#8220;I&#8217;m praying for you&#8221; statements.  In everything, make sure you are lead by the Holy Spirit.</p>
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		By: MaryEllen		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MaryEllen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 May 2013 15:19:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.imperfecthomemaker.com/2013/05/trying-to-understand-the-things-i-dont-when-mothers-day-hurts.html#comment-1151&quot;&gt;Anonymous&lt;/a&gt;.

I am so sorry you are dealing with this.  Thank you for sharing your thoughts and telling us what hurts you.  It will definitely help others be more sensitive.]]></description>
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<p>I am so sorry you are dealing with this.  Thank you for sharing your thoughts and telling us what hurts you.  It will definitely help others be more sensitive.</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 May 2013 15:09:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[First of all, I would like to thank you for this post! It brought tears to my eyes.  Dealing with infertility and child loss is such a hard topic to even talk about. I have had two miscarriages and we now have one child who brings great joy to our lives. We yearn for another child but are dealing with infertility once again. I think what hurts most for me is hearing the complaints. The mothers  complaining about pregnancy, morning sickness, sleepless nights, If they ONLY knew how blessed they are to be experiencing that! I would do it all over again! 
Thank you for this beautiful post!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all, I would like to thank you for this post! It brought tears to my eyes.  Dealing with infertility and child loss is such a hard topic to even talk about. I have had two miscarriages and we now have one child who brings great joy to our lives. We yearn for another child but are dealing with infertility once again. I think what hurts most for me is hearing the complaints. The mothers  complaining about pregnancy, morning sickness, sleepless nights, If they ONLY knew how blessed they are to be experiencing that! I would do it all over again!<br />
Thank you for this beautiful post!</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MaryEllen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 May 2013 14:46:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.imperfecthomemaker.com/2013/05/trying-to-understand-the-things-i-dont-when-mothers-day-hurts.html#comment-1138&quot;&gt;Deanna&lt;/a&gt;.

Wow, I never realized you had 5 babies in heaven.  And although I know you love Seth to death, I&#039;m sure you miss those other babies incredibly.  Thank you so much for sharing.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.imperfecthomemaker.com/2013/05/trying-to-understand-the-things-i-dont-when-mothers-day-hurts.html#comment-1138">Deanna</a>.</p>
<p>Wow, I never realized you had 5 babies in heaven.  And although I know you love Seth to death, I&#8217;m sure you miss those other babies incredibly.  Thank you so much for sharing.</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 May 2013 14:39:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Wow, this year the infertility posts leading up to Mother’s Day are popping up everywhere. Glad to see it addressed as I don’t remember seeing a single one before.

I can comment as one who has not been able to have children and have recently made the choice to stop trying or even hoping for it to happen (especially after some extremely difficult circumstances have happened in our life). After 10 years of marriage, it is time to move on, enjoy the wonderful marriage I have, and just be thankful for that. Not to say it doesn’t hurt, and I still don’t shed tears for the shattered dreams, for what could have been, etc. Read in another post today that once the decision has been made to stop pursing trying to have children (whether because of age or because of failed fertility treatments), you really need to give yourself time to grieve. No, you didn’t lose a physical child – but the dream, the ideal, the hopes that you have – you need to grieve the loss of those and then move on.

Now, what could be said or should be said. I will say, Mother’s Day is probably the worst day (or at least it was for me) to try to say anything. It was all I could do to get up and go to church that day – I dreaded it for weeks before, and usually somehow worked it out that I could work in nursery or children’s church that day and not be in the main service where mothers would be acknowledged and the sermon would be all about mothering. Completely well meaning people would try to give me a hug or even just squeeze my hand and say, “praying for you” and it would send me into a burst of tears. In some ways I wanted my hurt to be acknowledged, and in other ways I wanted to just be invisible or treated like a normal person on that day. Last year, a very well meaning person wanted to give me the “gift” that was being given to the mothers that day because she said I was a mother to children/relatives around me. I know that she totally meant well and she couldn’t have known at all – but it literally broke the dam I had tried hard to hold on my tears that day and I lost it all. I couldn’t bear the thought of walking out of church holding that gift when everyone around me KNEW I wasn’t a real mother.

So maybe a card or email beforehand or after Mother’s Day to the non-mother would be better – when they could cry in private? Although, some people may be very different than me and actually want something to be said that day.

I really liked this blog post’s way of acknowledging mothers from the pulpit on Mother’s Day – recognize all women – those who lost their mothers, those who lost children, those who have no children, etc. – https://www.messymiddle.com/2012/05/10/an-open-letter-to-pastors-a-non-mom-speaks-about-mothers-day/

And other ways to minister or reach out to those who aren’t mothers all throughout the year – INCLUDE them. Plan a mommy date with another mommy (park, play place, etc.) and invite a non-mommy to go along. Usually those who don’t have kids are surrounded by those their age that do have kids – so who is left to be friends with them? Those that are 10+ years younger? and sometimes even those people already have kids.

Don’t treat them different – not want to take your kids to their house cause it isn’t kid friendly, think they are not capable of working with kids cause they have no kids, etc.

Anyways, just some of my thoughts! Every person really is different with this so you have to know the person.

I appreciated your words, Mary Ellen. Loved these 2 statements you made – “The reason I don’t ask because is not because I don’t care; I don’t ask because I don’t want to make things harder on you than they already are.” so compassionate!!

“Acknowledge their value as a person. Let them know how much they mean to you and why. A person doesn’t have to be a perfect mother or child, or even be a mother at all, to have value, purpose, and influence.” so true and so needed to hear again and again!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, this year the infertility posts leading up to Mother’s Day are popping up everywhere. Glad to see it addressed as I don’t remember seeing a single one before.</p>
<p>I can comment as one who has not been able to have children and have recently made the choice to stop trying or even hoping for it to happen (especially after some extremely difficult circumstances have happened in our life). After 10 years of marriage, it is time to move on, enjoy the wonderful marriage I have, and just be thankful for that. Not to say it doesn’t hurt, and I still don’t shed tears for the shattered dreams, for what could have been, etc. Read in another post today that once the decision has been made to stop pursing trying to have children (whether because of age or because of failed fertility treatments), you really need to give yourself time to grieve. No, you didn’t lose a physical child – but the dream, the ideal, the hopes that you have – you need to grieve the loss of those and then move on.</p>
<p>Now, what could be said or should be said. I will say, Mother’s Day is probably the worst day (or at least it was for me) to try to say anything. It was all I could do to get up and go to church that day – I dreaded it for weeks before, and usually somehow worked it out that I could work in nursery or children’s church that day and not be in the main service where mothers would be acknowledged and the sermon would be all about mothering. Completely well meaning people would try to give me a hug or even just squeeze my hand and say, “praying for you” and it would send me into a burst of tears. In some ways I wanted my hurt to be acknowledged, and in other ways I wanted to just be invisible or treated like a normal person on that day. Last year, a very well meaning person wanted to give me the “gift” that was being given to the mothers that day because she said I was a mother to children/relatives around me. I know that she totally meant well and she couldn’t have known at all – but it literally broke the dam I had tried hard to hold on my tears that day and I lost it all. I couldn’t bear the thought of walking out of church holding that gift when everyone around me KNEW I wasn’t a real mother.</p>
<p>So maybe a card or email beforehand or after Mother’s Day to the non-mother would be better – when they could cry in private? Although, some people may be very different than me and actually want something to be said that day.</p>
<p>I really liked this blog post’s way of acknowledging mothers from the pulpit on Mother’s Day – recognize all women – those who lost their mothers, those who lost children, those who have no children, etc. – <a href="https://www.messymiddle.com/2012/05/10/an-open-letter-to-pastors-a-non-mom-speaks-about-mothers-day/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.messymiddle.com/2012/05/10/an-open-letter-to-pastors-a-non-mom-speaks-about-mothers-day/</a></p>
<p>And other ways to minister or reach out to those who aren’t mothers all throughout the year – INCLUDE them. Plan a mommy date with another mommy (park, play place, etc.) and invite a non-mommy to go along. Usually those who don’t have kids are surrounded by those their age that do have kids – so who is left to be friends with them? Those that are 10+ years younger? and sometimes even those people already have kids.</p>
<p>Don’t treat them different – not want to take your kids to their house cause it isn’t kid friendly, think they are not capable of working with kids cause they have no kids, etc.</p>
<p>Anyways, just some of my thoughts! Every person really is different with this so you have to know the person.</p>
<p>I appreciated your words, Mary Ellen. Loved these 2 statements you made – “The reason I don’t ask because is not because I don’t care; I don’t ask because I don’t want to make things harder on you than they already are.” so compassionate!!</p>
<p>“Acknowledge their value as a person. Let them know how much they mean to you and why. A person doesn’t have to be a perfect mother or child, or even be a mother at all, to have value, purpose, and influence.” so true and so needed to hear again and again!</p>
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